David ([info]braddogg) wrote in [info]libertarianism,

The Divine Right of Majorities

This is a very long blabber I wrote today about democracy, posted on my personal Live Journal, and I thought I'd share it with you. I'm quite prepared to get flamed by anyone who makes it all the way through. I won't be offended if you don't read it, and I won't be offended if you tear it to shreads. Lay on, if you like.


There was a time, before the Enlightenment, when the theory of the Divine Right of Kings ruled the political sphere. The theory was that the monarch's rule was enshrined by God, and that the King's rule could not be denied. That theory of governance has, in almost all countries, effectively passed away to a more liberal interpretation of the basis of governance, best described by the Constitutional Peasant in Monty Python and the Holy Grail: "power derives from a mandate from the masses." And this is the basis for the form of governance today popular in the West, called "democracy."



Democracy, it is said, is the worst form of government, except for all other forms of government already tried. In America, however, democracy is not the form of government; federal republicanism is the form of government. Federal because the national government shares many powers with smaller, semi-independent, sovereign states, ceding many powers to the states altogether; this relationship, too, is outlined in the United States Constitution (and subsequent amendments). Republican because power is derived from the people and the people are ruled by laws passed in accordance to a constitution.

Democracy is the form of choosing representatives to enter into the republican system, it is not the form of government in itself. It is said that the United States is a representative democracy; this definition, though, is inaccurate. In a democracy, there are no rules except "majority rules." In a republic, the constitution is the law.

Or, at least, it's supposed to be.

More and more, the Constitution is set aside in favor of the whims of the majority. The first income tax, for example, was passed in spite of constitutional restrictions (in the Civil War, under Lincoln, the first direct income tax was levied). The Sixteenth Amendment was passed much later, in the 20th Century, allowing Congress to assess an income tax without violating the Constitution.

This summer, in the Kelo v. New London case decided by the Supreme Court of the United States, the Constitutional protections against seizure of private property except when used "for public use" and with "just compensation" to the owner were thrown out the window. SCOTUS ruled that the city of New London could take someone's perfectly good home, declare it "blighted," purchase it for "market value" five years previous (before the housing boom), and sell it to a private corporation so that they could build a mall in New London. SCOTUS ruled that deference to the locally, democratically elected town government was in order.

And so you see the fight between democracy and constitutions. Constitutions define individual rights and limitations on government power; democracy seeks no limit on government power and no rights for individuals, seeking only the desires of the majority. This belief, that the majority has a RIGHT to rule, using the violence of the police power, I and others refer to as "the Divine Right of Majorities."

This is the source of the greatest immorality and greatest cause of personal suffering in the world.

There are several theories on what Western governments must aim to do; I shall describe three. Some want government to do nothing more than protect the property and life of individuals. Others want the government to redistribute income through heavy progressive taxation and social welfare programs. Still others want government to enforce private morality through drug bans and anti-sodomy laws. All three of these groups -- libertarians, liberals, and conservatives, respectively -- fight to form majorities in order to wield the precious "police power" -- the right to use violence without repute in order to force their vision of the world on others. They fight because they believe unquestioningly in the Divine Right of Majorities, the right of the majority to force its morality and its vision on the rest of the public. And the minority, for the most part in America, plays along, in hopes that it, too, may someday wield the police power and become the majority. Indeed, any group that claims to restore the limits of the Constitution do so only because they, as a Majority, would think it the best thing.

The police power invoked in the Divine Right of Majorities theory is used in different ways. Taxation is the most basic use of the police power. The Majority assesses a tax. And nearly everyone, out of deference to the Divine Right of Majorities to rule, pays this tax. Others, however, pay out of fear of retribution. Through the police power, the Majority is able to extract payment by threat of force -- don't pay the tax, welcome to captivity in jail. Last week, a woman in Texas was arrested on a warrant for forgetting to file tax returns and for owing $1.16 in back taxes. If the woman had resisted the attempts of the Majority to imprison her, she very well may have been shot dead. And so, the Majority, through unconcealed violence, ensures payment of taxes. And all because the people the Majority use violence against are in the same nation or state -- it's all because of imaginary lines!

The taxes are collected at various levels and go to various programs depending upon whom is in the Majority at the moment. Libertarians will collect fewer taxes -- but still, they will collect taxes to pay for police forces because they are dedicated to protecting life and property. And thus they, too, must use the police power to achieve their means. Similarly, conservatives will use the police power to gather taxes and will use the police power to prevent social immorality (prostitution, for example). And similarly, liberals will use the police power to gather taxes and will use the police power to prevent economic immorality and prevent social immorality (racism, for example).

All Western government in the 20th Century was based on this police power. From Fascist Italy to Communist Soviet Union to Republican America, the use of force was necessary to uphold the state. Yes, Monty Python's Constitutional Peasant, Dennis, spoke for me when he called out his fellow peasants, "Come see the violence inherent in the system! Help! Help! I'm being repressed!"

Under the Divine Right of Majorities, the stakes are so high, the rewards so large, the power so great, that nearly no group can withdraw from its power. Even those who seek to do immense good with the power must first agree to play by the rules, they must fight to have a majority and, until then, agree to be subjugated to the other majorities. While they fight and struggle, they support, however unwittingly, all the actions taken by whatever Divine Majority is in power, because they continue to willingly submit to the police power exerted by the Majority. Thus, conservatives support the war on poverty, liberals support the war in Iraq, and libertarians support the war on drug users. No matter how much talk these different groups make, they still believe in the Divine Right of Majorities, and still hope that one day THEY will be the Majority, THEY will hold the police power, and THEY will make the world a better place through it.

But until then. . . until then they are guilty of consenting to acts most disagreeable to their morality. I wonder how long people will gamble on becoming the Divine Majority. I wonder how many people feel this immorality, feel the wrongness of the Divine Right of Majorities. I wonder how many souls are tortured by the thought that they are perpetuating the cycle of welfare poverty, that they are perpetuating murder in foreign wars, that they are perpetuating the violation of basic freedoms to self-ownership. How long will it be until the people rise up? How long until they embrace their power to do good without use of the Police Power? How long until the idea of the Divine Right of Majorities becomes as laughable as the Divine Right of Kings?

How long until we embrace morality, and not violence?

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[info]slawson01

October 24 2005, 12:37:12 UTC 6 years ago

Ah the tyranny of the majority.

That is specifically why our nation was formed as a republic and not as a democracy. Until Wilson democracy was not a buzzword, he made it so. With his slogan in support of WWI "Making the world safe for democracy."

I frequently tell people that democracy is bad. I then must explain and my explanation is rarely understood. Democracy would be a step forward for China, but for the united States each step in the growth of democracy is a step backward. We have, or had, a superior form of government in our republic.

The founders of our nation were not of one mind. They did not trust the people, nor did they trust a government. They merely hoped that there would be enough good men to keep things going until they could pass the torch to the next generation who would then be charged with the same tasks.

I agree with your points and I think it is nice that you have equated the tyranny of the majority with the divine right of kings. The latter being a dead concept which can hopefully drag down majority rule to a point where it can be strangled to death by one man and the law.

[info]braddogg

October 24 2005, 13:59:52 UTC 6 years ago

Would you agree if I said that Libertarians are trying to create a tyranny of the majority?

[info]slawson01

October 25 2005, 12:06:26 UTC 6 years ago

I might agree that some who call themselves libertarians would like to create a tyranny of the majority with libertarians in the majority.

I would personally prefer the rule of law with the specific rules about what can and cannot be made law clearly defined and properly enforced.

There was a time when if the congress wanted to do something the Constitution forbade, they would amend the Constitution. Now the executive and legislative branches just count on support from the judicial branch. This has been the norm since fdr found the trump card to control the judicial branch. If I had a time machine I would go back and kill him while he was SECNAV.

[info]braddogg

October 25 2005, 12:27:35 UTC 6 years ago

"The rule of law" as established and written by a majority? With a constitution established by the majority (or a super-majority)? Even if you have specific rules about what laws can and cannot be made, the majority creates the rules that are there and can, as you point out, change the constitution when it wants. If someone doesn't want to pay taxes you would levy (to pay for police forces, as a libertarian example), will that be okay with you? Because if you don't use force to enforce the laws, you have no government as such. And if you use government force to enforce a government decision (law), there is a tyranny of the majority, even if that majority is a 99% majority.

[info]polyanarch

October 24 2005, 13:42:22 UTC 6 years ago

OMG

You are starting to sound like an anarchist...

;)

[info]braddogg

October 24 2005, 13:53:51 UTC 6 years ago

Re: OMG

Hehehe, why yes I am.

[info]braddogg

October 24 2005, 16:13:55 UTC 6 years ago

Re: OMG

Heh, I've been an anarchist for a while, a Christian anarchist, but I find it's no fun to just say "No government involvement" to all the posts in this community. I like to play.

[info]polyanarch

October 24 2005, 16:24:16 UTC 6 years ago

Christian anarchist

I'm a pagan anarchist myself (ever notice you can add 2 lines to the anarchist "A" and get a pentagram?)

Glad to meet you.

[info]braddogg

October 24 2005, 16:36:35 UTC 6 years ago

Re: Christian anarchist

Heh, that's a nifty trick. Better not tell the Evangelicals, I'll get run out of the church, lol. I laugh because it's true and I don't know how else to react to that realization....

Anyway, a pleasure to meet you as well. I'm sure we've chatted on these boards in the past, but as one anarchist to another, howdy.

[info]polyanarch

October 24 2005, 16:59:10 UTC 6 years ago

Re: Christian anarchist

I've seen your icon a few times.

Nice to see someone with similar values ;)

[info]accident_prone3

October 24 2005, 18:09:35 UTC 6 years ago

Re: Christian anarchist

Could either of you guys recommend a book that makes a strong case for anarcho-capitalism? I keep meaning to read Hoppe's Democracy: The God that Failed, but I haven't gotten around to it yet. Is that a good starting point, or should I be reading something else?

Anarcho-capitalism seems like the only philosophically consistent application of the NAP, but I don't understand how rights would be protected in this system. A couple people have tried explaining it to me, but I still don't understand. I'm thinking if I actually sit down and read a book about it, I'll get a better understanding for it than reading a few paragraphs on the internet.

[info]polyanarch

October 24 2005, 18:32:40 UTC 6 years ago

Re: Christian anarchist

Rights CAN'T always be protected. There is NO free lunch. You always have your rights even when you are too weak or unable to protect them -they just have been abridged. It is your OWN responsibilty to protect them even when you can't.

It's like the right to live. If someone sneaks up behind you and slits your throat do you still have a right to live? Of course. Did that person "take away" your right to live? No, you still had that right even unto death -they only abridged it.

The same goes for the right of a woman not to be raped. If someone sneaks up behind her in her poor government-unarmed position and forces sex on her does she lose that right not to be raped? No, she always has that right and still retains it. The rapist just abridged it.

We all have the rights of life, liberty and property. It is our responsibility and ours alone to protect those rights. If we fail it is our fault. You can never expect anyone else to do this for you. It can never be their final responsibilty if they fail -only yours.

As for books, I don't have anything off the top of my head other than Rothbard and L. Neil Smith where I am right now. Hopefully someone else can add in some titles.

[info]accident_prone3

October 24 2005, 19:09:22 UTC 6 years ago

Re: Christian anarchist

Why wouldn't voluntary associations eventually grow large enough that they could violate individual rights without fear of reprisal, thus becoming governments? Government seems like an inevitable evil in human affairs because certain people like to dominate others. While the idea of anarchy is based on rights, once you establish anarchy, rights seem pretty irrelevant. It seems almost like whoever is strongest can do whatever he wants and all anarchists can do about it is call him immoral. I can see anarchy working if everyone had an equal amount of power, but as soon as one group has more power than the other, the group with the power has the potential to become a government. Maybe it won't happen right away, but eventually someone would come to power who believed he'd be happier controlling others, and government would be reborn.

I've heard that economic and social arrangements would make government/violence unprofitable, but I don't understand why.

[info]polyanarch

October 24 2005, 20:38:43 UTC 6 years ago

Re: Christian anarchist

Once a "voluntary" association does anything even one member feels is against his will then it no longer is "voluntary" and that member has the right to fight back and ask for help in fighting back. When responding to initiated force an anarchist can do considerably more than use words!

[info]accident_prone3

October 24 2005, 21:15:37 UTC 6 years ago

Re: Christian anarchist

The member fight back, and he can ask for help in fighting back, but from what you said before, no one has any obligation to help him fight back. Rights seem pretty irrelevant unless they are enforced.

Harking back to your first example, if I rape a woman who has not contracted a defense company and has no other means with which to retaliate, her right to not being raped seems pretty irrelevant. Hopefully people would retaliate on her behalf based on common decency, but if not, she only has herself to blame.

I do not believe that by existing you have any duty to defend my rights from being abridged, but I also think that people's rights should be protected. I know that made no logical sense, and I guess in a sense I'm turning life, liberty and property into positive rights, which they aren't at all. I'm still trying to wrap my head around the idea of anarchy because I don't think it's possible to fully accept the NAP and also consider onself a minarchist (as those in the LP do).

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[info]hhallahh

October 24 2005, 16:58:30 UTC 6 years ago

How long until we embrace morality, and not violence?

"If men were angels.."

As long as we need a government (which we do, by any meaningful sense of the word "need"), we will need a procedure through which government decisions are made. Democracy (or representative democracy, or whatever) is simply the least-worst procedure.

There is no such thing as the "divine right of majorities" in pretty much any modern nation. You discredit your arguments by employing such excessive terminologies. Minority rights exist.

It's easy to bitch about the problems with democracy, but the only real alternative is anarchy. And for good reason.

[info]braddogg

October 25 2005, 12:39:53 UTC 6 years ago

There is a divine right of majorities. Get a large enough majority and you can do anything, at least in America. You can take away private property and give it to corporations (Kelo), you can take money from corporations and give it to poor people (taxation), you can punish thought (hate crime legislation), and you can outlaw drugs (war on drug users). As for the precious Constitution, well, we know what's happened to that. And a super-majority (actually, I suppose, a minority) could amend the Constitution until we have no right to free speech. And the idea that the majority can be wrong does cross people's minds, but it doesn't stop the oppression of minorities. Some minority rights exist, but just try to smoke pot in front of a police station and you'll see how well minority rights are protected. Or try to smoke in a restraunt in New York City or Massachusetts, for that matter. Any freedom allowed by the majority today could be gone tommorow.

[info]hhallahh

October 25 2005, 12:54:50 UTC 6 years ago

Any freedom allowed by the majority today could be gone tommorow.

Any freedom could be gone tomorrow under the correct circumstances.

How can you say that the examples you outlined create a "divine right", when you admit that there are limitations?

[info]braddogg

October 25 2005, 13:01:41 UTC 6 years ago

There are no limitations to the actions of majorities -- a large enough majority could vote for anything. They haven't squashed all of the rights of the minority, but the certainly could if they wanted to do so.

Have I contradicted that statement?

[info]hhallahh

October 25 2005, 13:09:16 UTC 6 years ago

There are no limitations to the actions of majorities -- a large enough majority could vote for anything.

Sure, they could vote for anything. And then watch the courts overturn whatever they vote for.

Amending the Constitution requires a super-majority, as you said... or, at least, it theoretically does, ignoring that we live in a representative democracy and not a direct one. Thus, perhaps one could say that the "divine right of the 2/3 majority" exists at best.

[info]braddogg

October 25 2005, 13:18:55 UTC 6 years ago

Okay, so you think I'm wrong, not that I contradicted or admitted any limitations to the majority in my post. Perfectly legitimate.

The Constitution could be amended with a minority of the voting population, come to think about it. Get slight majorities from voters in 3/4 of the states, get blown away in the other states. 2/3s of the Congress is still needed, I suppose, but that won't necessarily reflect 2/3 of the voting population.

Judges are chosen by presidents elected by the majority and are confirmed by majority vote of the Senate elected by a majority of the members of the respective states. And the system of judicial review was set up by the majority in the first place. Plus, several presidents have ignored Supreme Court rulings without suffering consequences -- President Jackson, for example, in removing Indians from the south.

[info]hhallahh

October 25 2005, 13:24:27 UTC 6 years ago

You don't think it undermines your point to say that any law could be passed and enforced with any margin of support?

It seems like you wouldn't even be satisfied with a Constitution that strictly protected minority rights under any circumstances, because it's possible that this provision could be ignored in practice. However, the negation of the protection of minority rights is not the "divine right of the majority."

[info]braddogg

October 25 2005, 13:35:07 UTC 6 years ago

No constitution could protect minority rights in the absolute sense of not making everyone obey the laws set by the majority. Otherwise, what you have is a voluntary collective rather than a government.

[info]accident_prone3

October 24 2005, 17:26:46 UTC 6 years ago

I've found that usually when someone invokes "because the majority says so" it is because they have run out of arguments. I know plenty of libertarians who would support a small segment of the population overthrowing the government and implementing libertopia, even if 90% of the country is happy living under a powerful government. Conservative Christians have no problem saying gay marriage and hard drugs should be outlawed "because the majority of people don't want those things in society," but if you tell one of them that most people are against going to war in Iraq, they'll argue that those people against the war are wrong and we can't let the naysayers keep us from keeping the world safe for democracy.

I don't think that any system of government is inherently better than another; I think a government's legitimacy rests on it's citizens morality. I don't mean morality in hardcore Christian fundamentalist terms, but in each person having their own thought out moral standards and the fortitude to defend those convictions. I think a Constitutional democratic republic is most effective in promoting personal responsibility, and thus morality, but we've seen what happens when people become brainwashed, complacent, irresponsible and small minded. Although libertarians like to separate politics from culture, I don't think it's possible. The problem is, conservatives and liberals seem to think that politics can dictate culture, and I suppose to an extent it can, but I think more often culture dicates how a country evolves politically. I think one of the best things libertarians can do is to promote a culture that values individualism, critical thinking and courage. If we as a culture accept that life, liberty and property are inalieanable rights, it doesn't matter much if we have a democracy, a republic, a monarchy or a benevolent dictatorship. The problem, however, is building and maintaining that cultural attitude, which can be done best through a constitutional republic or anarchy.

P.S. I'm just spouting stuff as it comes to my head and haven't really though any of this through, so I apologize some of my points aren't clear.

[info]braddogg

October 25 2005, 12:32:09 UTC 6 years ago

Makes sense to me. Anarchy would be best. Constitutional republic is preferable to out of control dictator. But I would say a benevolent (that is, even-handed and liberty-minded) autocrat is preferable to a pure democracy, because democracy establishes no minority protection but looks pretty. Voting isn't everything. "The Future of Freedom," by Fareed Zakaria, is an excellent book on the topic.
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